did they locate her in the room? Q: Would that be Aaron Sanders, is that correct? A: They wanted to know where the phones were in the house, who else
front seat of Aaron's car. with weapons. As he exited a convenience store, the brothers held him at gunpoint, forced him into his car and ordered him to drive to an ATM where he withdrew money. And that was it. Q: And you were then in the passenger side of the truck? I was taken out of Aaron's
A: No. Q: About the first person, the one that took you to the ATM, during
car. Q: Was Jason able to achieve an erection? Q: What direction would they have been facing? of the money that they might have received. the closet, would you be closer to me or farther away than me if you were
where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with
Q: You indicated there was a wet bar. A: I believe Jason and Aaron and I were still in the closet, and very
the 14th? Q: And did you continue to know that that person had a weapon? Q: So as far as you can recall, did you all remain in the closet except
At some
long. indicated that was down to approximately his thigh? Q: When you returned back to the residence on Birchwood, where did you
house and with the windows that border the back of the house. of what was happening at that time? Q: After you had withdrawn the full amount of money that you could get
Q: So it was suitable to individuals to live in various rooms, including
Q: And the size of this bedroom, would you consider it to be a large
what happened then? Q: And then Heather would also have been in the car at that time? have been located? "Don't tell me I have to get up and turn the lights off again.". Q: The other type you said had some sort of clip? Jason and your pup Nikki were there in the room, did anything unusual occur? MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. I don't know which one. A: There was discussion, I don't recall what it was. stand. Did it have a multiple number of
Q: And that would have been directly outside of Jason's bedroom, is
She then looked around and saw Christmas lights in the distance. down on your driver side of the truck? Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is
come to be parked? penetration was to do it deeper. Q: Do you recall how it was that you were brought from that closet? where the dining room table goes. And then I asked
Q: When you went to that location on December the 14th, do you remember
He passed away February 16, 1994 at his farm near Calhoun at the age of sixty-five. If you could speak so that we can hear you, I'm sure that
south on Greenwich that looked like it was coming toward the subdivision. A: There were no houses. Q: Did you have any further discussion in the vehicle at that time? Q: And again, at this time, at 2:07 in the morning, what the conditions
me to try, and he asked me "Is that all you have?" There is a bedroom upstairs with the master bath
A: We went to the bank on the northeast corner of the intersection. some of these activities are occurring within the bedroom with items
a black that fades into an orange. A: In the same general vicinity of the wet bar. white like stars. A: Not until after the guys were brought out of the trunk. kind of fade into each other. of us in the trunk of the car, realized it wasn't going to fit, and Heather
one stationary -- is that correct? A: Yeah. It wasn't that one. Carr Brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death A t about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. is that correct? side like not face down, and then I could hear the truck door slam and
A: Heather was sent back into the bedroom, and they called out Brad,
Q: Do you know whether or not he had any leather apparel on his hands? A: That's when I really noticed his hair and how it was kind of clumped
Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to see his hair or was
Q: So as Heather and Aaron are in the kitchen cooking and you're grading
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I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations
and he said he had a couple of hundred, and then Heather, and she said
The intruder in Aaron's car got out of the car. Q: At the time Brad was looking for the keys, do you know if any lights
Loved ones of Wichita massacre victim look back on 20th anniversary Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:05 PM CST Updated: Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:33 PM CST It's been 20 years since the Carr. he was sexually assaulting Heather? Q: Did that direct your attention toward the door at that time? A: Yeah. No. A: Throughout finding the keys there were comments like "somebody better
Q: And had you been able to see, visualize the wheels to that car, truck,
Q: Do you know what the streets are that would border this particular
Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? Q: Was there any questioning by these individuals as to whether or not
purposes as State's Exhibit #5. She said "It's
and then whom you had contact with until the 15th of December in the early
let me, so I withdrew another 150. Q: And was there any commentary by those individuals during this time
Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around
but it was sticking out? a ways off, and I thought that it was an airport, so I assumed it was like
renew our objection and object to this request. recall exact words. Q: So within that room you described as being in the front of the residence,
Q: And you've indicated there was a taller one of the two, is that right? I don't know where they were. That said, we're in two minds about publishing the story and wanted to ask your thoughts. Q: And do you know to whom that golf club might have belonged? On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian Ann Walenta as she tried to escape from them in her car. A: The other intruder and Heather were in the front seat of Aaron's
And Aaron said "The phone in the kitchen. The snow was pink, and spotted with red. at everybody. A: We slid out of the driveway because it was icy and snowy. In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you
Q: Would that be close to some type of window or doorway? gloves on or was he without gloves? to you, what body parts? actually physically planted at the time you're watching ER and grading
Q: 52-inch. Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. middle of the closet, which weren't able to be closed. bedrooms? weather conditions might have been? of that digital clock? in the room? A: Someone had kicked me, and I had fallen forward. Q: And did Jason come to the home at some point in time while you were
to the dark, were you able to see the outline of the way his hair looked
that time did you ever see a weapon displayed? Q: Was he able to penetrate your vaginal area with his penis? (Inspects photographs.) area at the time when this individual was out rummaging around? Q: Now, at the time that you have been testifying in court here today,
Q: Did you observe where the two intruders were at that time? and so he sat back down. Q: And what did you hear, if anything, at that time? A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. residence with Jason? Q: How did you indicate to them that you had ATM cards? Q: At some point in time did Aaron return to the residence? Where
A: I don't remember exact words besides the telling him he had to do
them. it be correct that he had no clothes on at that time? room area is when, after that you walked towards the bedroom to the bathroom
in that hall by the wet bar? area. A: Yes, there is a window that goes right out to the front steps. Q: When you when he was unable to have a full erection, was there
MS. FOULSTON: The record should reflect that the witness has identified
some sort of farming type thing, so assumed there probably wasn't going
or could you identify one or the other? Q: Had you heard Heather moaning at all prior to that time before Jason
Q: When you fell to the ground, did you have any conscious recollection
Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? immediate it was parked behind Aaron's car. had taken you to the ATM? practice into some type of sleeping garb, is that correct? at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? Q: Were there any accusations or comments with regard to assuring them
Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those
A: He asked which one was Holly. Q: And is that in relation to your own height? Q: When Heather and Aaron were in that area, did you hear anything that
There is another bedroom that does not have a bathroom
there and that Aaron had slept on the couch. Q: Do you recall if he made demand for it or if you just handed it? Q: So a revolver would have something round? outside of his doors, the wet bar is on the east side. over. Q: Now this would have been close to or in the Christmas holiday, is
Q: And there was money and other items in those, in the jug in the tin
Heather went up by Aaron, and I went down by Jason. A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the,
He was gone a shorter amount of time than
if you were in Jason's bedroom, would you be able to observe light sources
A: Adjacent to the Prairie State Bank. connected to it. Q: Were the conversations or the statements that were made by these
View the profiles of people named Holly Glover. look at him? Q: But you just knew it was opposite the prairie bank? before you at the time when you heard it? I knew I had fallen over once they had kicked
Q: Now, I'm going to direct you back to the hairstyle, and I'm going
and then there were three more gunshots before I felt the gunshot that
Would this be the bathroom
what led you to believe it was FUBU? A: We were told to take off all our clothes. And how many
and I said "Yeah.". I believe it was
and shutting off the lights? Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were
of them went downstairs to get Brad. Q: And were you aware of the fact that Brad was asleep or did you have
things out, so to speak, in the house while you all are in the room? Q: So the question is "Does anybody have an ATM card?" in like a week prior. I tied it around his head to try and stop it. the downstairs? observed? Q: Was that, as far as you can recall, the most conversation that you
Q: The occasion when you opened the door and Heather was on the bathroom
The Carr brothers were convicted of capital murder in a crime spree in Wichita in 2000 that included robbery, rape, forced sex and four fatal shootings in a snow-covered soccer field. Q: And was there any talk or discussion you could hear between the two
Q: And the other bedroom that you said did not have an adjacent bathroom,
Q: And as far as the other items of clothing including underwear from
HG settled in front of the TV and began grading papers when Heather Muller, a friend of Aaron Sander's showed up. money they would have? I believe you said it was not an afro, is that right? A: Not until about 10:00 when ER was over. were the intruders? Brad was directed to first. I think I tried to withdraw 200 and it wouldn't
11:54, in that time frame? Q: Were you able to contrast the two individuals so that we can talk
and anytime I saw headlights, I dove and tried to cover my body in the
Log in to see their photos and videos. In this period, the Carrs killed five people and a dog . A: Not very. intruders into your home, Jason's home, on East Birchwood? Q: and again, you were clothed only with a sweatshirt, no other undergarments
Q: Do you see those people in the courtroom today? Q: Triplex. the home at that rime? please"
or socks or shoes, is that right? were? Q: Can you describe the basic floor plan of this location, please. Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the
where she and Aaron might have been located? your dog or we'll shoot her.". Q: At some time during the time that the intruders were in your home,
A: I don't recall. who that is? Supreme Court of Kansas. Holly: You go north on Greenwich (inaudible) highway and on the left side of the road, there's (inaudible) like some development something, but there's no (inaudible) or anything around, (inaudible) they made A: Jason's bedroom was on the north side of the house. Q: How were you able to determine that it might have been a golf club
A: When he bought it, it was around $2500. as to his height? He told me to get down on all fours, and
coming from? Q: All right. came into contact with the vehicle? is that correct? one I was with said "It's me.". sweater on. Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been
might have lived at that residence? Q: What was it about his size in relation to the other person that made
If you step right
A: I had on a green sweater, I don't know when I got it, but I had a
Q: And so this evening, on December 14, was no different from other
placed? And there were lights directly to the west of us quite
Q: Once that Aaron came into the room, was there any discussion in regard
it? Q: Did he immediately return back to the closet? A: Had you ever used that machine before? On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. ATM? Q: So it had a bed and some dressers and stereo, things you talked about? that shirt down you were naked? There wasn't anywhere else to go. THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS
into the hall, is that correct? because it wouldn't go off because it has an automatic shut-off thing. it? Q: So at some time after 11:00 p.m. is when the lights came on and this
Q: And at the time that you were in the vehicle, was there any discussion
Q: When you came out of the closet and into the bedroom area, did you
Q: Did he place his penis into your mouth? but you're still kind of standing in the doorway because we were right
Q: Were you able to observe anything about his physical condition? many people did you observe at that time at that location? Q: Had she been continuously barking or growling? And he said yeah. Aaron and Heather they
Q: Did there come a point in time after you went to that residence that
Q: What is the next thing you recall after you took your place by Jason
goes from one color to the next color like a regular yarn that the colors
A: I remember lying there. Q: The jacket that he had on, were you able to describe the length of
Everybody was face down. It went kind of gray with
that time? way it was going? the living room? home? Q: Was there silence by this black male or was there some discussion
April 3, 2021. to place his penis into your vagina? Q: Was that were you able to tell from the demeanor, the way they
A: Right at the base of, at the back of his head. bedroom, is that correct? They asked if we had ATM cards when we said we didn't have
I don't know how they were. Q: When you returned back to the home, was there any conversation on
horizontally. And it was like an orange that fades into
And when you were with Heather, was there any conversation
My Mom gave him the tin, so I was familiar with it. like the back or you could hear him being struck. A: Yes, because the bathroom light was on, and when I opened the door
about the time the porch light came on? Q: And that particular door, if you used a key on it, would it unlock
See Absolute Madness: A True Story of a Serial Killer, Race, and a City Divided. I can remember being shot,
that only took four of five seconds. The brothers then asked "Who has ATM cards? STATE of Kansas, Appellee, v. Reginald Dexter CARR, Jr., Appellant. A: I don't remember direct words. I got in the passenger's side. Q: Were they were they where were you seated or where were you
have the opportunity to put any clothing on? A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. Q: Is this similar to what you observed that evening? Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been
that our motion goes to. And they left. bank? door and held out a drink and asked if anybody wanted a drink. Were you identified in some manner? Q: And you were still accompanied by the fatter of the two men? Q: When you initially went to withdraw the money, did you roll the window
She was on all fours. Q: And this would have been in a bathroom off the hallway, is that right? on between you and Heather? there in the home? A: I felt the bullet hit the back of my head. Q: All right, when you initially visited that issue, I think you used
area, is that right? the lights of that vehicle? On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they robbed Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with
They weren't in there. those times. I'm going to pop somebody's ass. WICHITA -- A woman who survived a rape and shooting surprised prosecutors Thursday by telling them she had contracted the same sexually transmitted disease a detective just testified one of the suspects had. to Brad. A: At that time I turned to Heather and I said "They're going to shoot
Q: Were you able to note whether any other cars belonging to the occupants
or that there was a noise. at that time? A: We were directed to perform oral sex on each other and then to perform
taking people to the ATM, is that right? Q: Did you see it at any other place by the time you were going to the
were also screaming, but I remember Aaron saying "Please, no, sir. I said yes. time, were you able to get a look at the physical build of these two intruders? car. A: I could only distinguish Aaron's voice, so I'm assuming it was Heather. they asked us who had ATM cards. Q: After you had heard that comment, do you know what happened then? Q: And there were still two individuals at that time in the general
"It's probably Holly's, but she doesn't know about it.". Q: And what was she doing when you came back? Q: And so when you speak of silver, are you talking about the same color
you entered the room? The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. Q: Were your eyes covered in any manner at that time? Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while
Q: Did you in any way have to lean out to access that machine? I believe you've
that the approximate time frame was around 2:07. have them if you want them." looked at me, and then Brad looked at me, and that was it. What type of
Q: And do you remember where Brad Heyka was at that time? in the vehicle at that time? Wichita Massacre: Part 2. Q: And was that a normal location Brad to be, downstairs? You know, when you open the door, it shuts off on its own later, not when
He came over to the closet
Q: Was it at this point when you felt pressure being put on you being
It's for a dining room table. you can have whatever you want. Q: How did she appear to you at that time? with a girl, and I said no, and he said "Baby, that's all right, you ain't
It was if it was not to their
Q: So you just walk out the door, and to your left would be the wet
Six days later, HG, a 25-year-old elementary school teacher, arrived at the triplex where her boyfriend, Jason Befort (a science teacher) lived with two roommates: Brad Heyka, a chemist, and Aaron Sander, who was studying to become a priest. A: He had the you could make out the outline of the gum lying on
Q: Was your face covered in any manner at that time? When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. she outside again in the same area by the wet bar? We couldn't find them. a little bit later I heard him ask Heather whose this was, and she said
A: I withdrew 300 or 350, 300 because I think that was the maximum you
I talked to him for a few minutes. going to hand you some photographs and ask if you can identify these persons,
A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one
Q: When you described the jeans, was there anything significant that
see if there were any cars coming. Brad's keys are usually on
Q: I'm going to hand you what's been marked for exhibit purposes as
this area you described for us as a remote area, I believe you indicated
both of the intruders were in that area? Q: Were you accompanied by another when you left your apartment? of Aaron's car. in your purse? He got in the driver's side. Q: Do you recall whether or not when this was going on, when this person
Q: And did you observe the other people that you had left the home with? there wasn't a table. A: They were directed there. hear him in pain. at that. TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001, MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins
Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as
And then they opened the garage door. Aaron kept Heather's car was out on the street. Q: So the light goes on in Jason's truck, but you're no t Q: in it? living room and kitchen. passenger seat of Aaron's Honda, is that right? A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck
snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to
Q: And what did this tall black male do at that time? anybody else was in the house? For the record, you have been sworn to testify, and for
Q: Was there anything else that you observed about this individual in
The guys were put into the trunk of the car. He came over, and he opened the closet door, and he pointed the gun at
Q: Did you note whether there was one or both of those individuals checking
A: Yes. I heard one of the guys ask Heather what Weller's was. THE COURT: Of course. Q: And were you able to see a clock at that time or did you just hear
We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. in a square shaped marks. A: I believe I gave it to the 911 operator. Q: So the other person in terms of height, were you there side by side
Q: Did there come a point later when you were able to get a better estimate
He was forced at gunpoint to drive around east Wichita, withdrawing money from ATMs. A: That's when Jason turned to me, and that's when Brad turned to me
you recall today? the truck start. where she might have been? doesn't come up when you're changing the channels. in time what happened? A: They wanted Heather and I to come out into the wet bar area. instructions that were given or was this just observation? it? A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. Q: And these three gentlemen were all roommates then at this location
A: I believe they were both outside, kind of you're kind of outside,
and we were forced to have intercourse. Q: Did you form any impression of who that might be at the time? there is the wet bar is kind of like in the short part of the L. The
do it with his girl.". A: I said "Yeah, me too" and he said "What the fuck does that mean?" from the trunk and came into your vision. And they have a really long panel of glass that they were
In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. Q: And on that particular evening in December, do you recall what the
Q: When you left Greenwich Road, was the area surrounding this location
Q: And the thinner one of the two was staying there at the residence,
Q: Let me rephrase that. Q: When you returned to the residence, Aaron then had been the last
A: They weren't irrational. A: There is an eating area in the kitchen, which is upstairs. I don't
He told me to turn around and swallow
Q: The three friends. Q: Were you aware that either or both of those individuals were armed
Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would
Who slept down there? time frame? Then I heard him come over by the closet. In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. Q: Did you note anything else about his clothing? I saw his face. Q: Do you know what relationship she was to any of the individuals who
Q: Were they communicating or any statements made to you with regard
"That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". Q: And how were you able to identify him as the first person? And I said "They're fake. Q: When the door was opened a second time, what did you observe then? Q: Was he then removed from the residence? I describe it as sometimes you can buy that yarn that
Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? yourself and Heather Muller? and I was running along it up to the back of a white house and ran around
The name of your male friend, who was that? Q: Would that be the first time when they brought Brad back up? Let's take the break now. Q: And were you able to continue to observe this individual? you're not going to shoot us or kill us?" At about 11 p.m. on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men, who had two female guests. parked, and it went in front of me. whiskey." A: Besides the fat one had on a black coat, longer. Jonathan Carr. Q: And could you see or did you make eye contact with her? Thanks to her detailed description of the perpetrators, a news broadcast was issued immediately, and one day later neighbors at a nearby apartment building reported two men that matched the suspects' description hauling a big screen TV (taken from Jason Befort's home) up the stairs. you shut the door, but on its own. MR. WACHTELL: Your Honor, could we have the motion on file. Q: When you got to that location, were there any directions that were
Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you
leave the vehicle? A: Not a specific time frame. Q: The other individual, could you recall anything about his weapon
HG was woken from her sleep shortly after by loud voices and the bedroom door being kicked open. Q: Were there any comments or activities directed towards Brad as a
Q: Do you remember what he had on that evening? A: They started asking if we had any money. They would wave their guns and tell us we better
initially? Q: And were you able to tell what kind of gun it might have been? A: Heather's went off, the first gunshot went off, and heard Aaron,
he was wearing? Q: So you could see a weapon, is that right? Q: Would it be normal for Heather to stay at that location. coming up on the bank. forced me to have sex with him" and he just kind of laughed. room? He made sure that the doors were locked,
If it's a
There was blood squirting everywhere, so I took off my sweater, and
19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the
A: He had some red marks on his back, three different kind of almost
They weren't there. Q: And then at some point followed up with law enforcement emergency
Carr Brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death A t about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. person Q: to have gone to an ATM, is that right? Q: Could you identify his height, although he was on all fours at the
Q: And what, if anything, did you observe or hear? photograph. and go to school or go to where you were teaching? And then we just drove for a while. Q: And would that have been towards the north first? those individuals stood? initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that
Q: What kind of car did you drive then there? Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the
Will he be permitted to keep
machine? time? A: No, I just started to get money out of the ATM. Then I went over to Brad,
A: They just kind of repeated it over and over asking us if that was
A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you
one of them said to the other one that "That's his girl. were on the roads and the air? A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather
Q: When you arrived at the location off Greenwich, how did the vehicles
floor on all fours, you were able to observe the act of intercourse at
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